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A Barry big debate

Posted by Eric Wilbur, Boston.com Staff June 3, 2008 09:15 AM

If the call comes, does Theo Epstein pick up the phone?

From a pure baseball standpoint, it makes sense to reach out and snatch the receiver to his ever-ready listening ear. From the standpoint of everything else, just let it go to voicemail.

It's natural to conclude that Barry Bonds has noticed the suddenly gaping hole in the Red Sox lineup now that David Ortiz has been lost indefinitely with tendon sheath damage in his left wrist. It's probably pretty easy to figure out that Boston might be willing to seek replacement avenues should the relatively sunny forecast (out a month) turn into the dreary possibility of season-ending surgery.

That's not an avenue the Red Sox seem willing to go down just yet. But I wouldn't bet on Ortiz calling his shot at Yankee Stadium come All-Star time either.

Granted, this same team managed to survive nearly a month without Manny Ramirez late last summer, when the left fielder went down with an oblique injury. Boston managed to hover around .500 for those 23 games, and went on to win the American League East title for the first time since 1995.

This is different.

Unlike Ramirez a season ago, the prognosis for Ortiz is mostly unknown, a scary factor when it is the wrist in question for an athlete who depends on such a function as flipping them in time to beat a 95 mile-per-hour fastball. Depending upon the severity, Ortiz could return to the lineup by late July but that in no way guarantees top-level effectiveness, or where the Red Sox will even be by that point. When the Sox played their first game without Ramirez last August, they held a six-game lead over the Yankees, and 13 over Toronto. By the time Ramirez returned to the lineup on Sept. 25, Boston's lead over New York was just three games.

Such comfort doesn't exist in this year's AL East of parity, with Boston facing a 1 Ĺ-game deficit at the hands of the Tampa Bay Rays nearly 40 percent into the 2008 campaign. The Rays, who are THE story in baseball, come to Boston tonight to kick off a four-game series in the Fens, but their success has managed to overshadow the recent run of the Toronto Blue Jays, who went 20-10 last month with a baseball-best 2.91 team ERA. They were 14-17 a month ago, in last place. Today they are 31-28 and making a case to be around for the long run.

Mix in the perplexing Yankees, and it's a safe bet that the division isn't going to be dominated by any one squad, which is precisely why any serious blow like losing Ortiz for any significant amount of time hurts the Sox more than it would have a season ago.

Brandon Moss is a decent replacement in the outfield, as the Red Sox could employ him in a rotation with Jacoby Ellsbury and Coco Crisp as Ramirez takes over full-time DH duties. But will that get it done if this does, in fact, turn out to be a long-term or even permanent loss? The Red Sox are essentially faced with replacing a player with an .839 OPS, not an easy task. Even for them.

But what if I told you there was a free agent on the market who last we saw put up a 1.045 OPS, slugged .565, and had an OBP of .485? Interested, right?

Of course, he is Barry Bonds. Still interested?

Putting aside all talk of steroids and perjury charges, it's hard to imagine Boston becoming even more of a media circus, but it would happen. Pedro Gomez would have to start re-using his Marriott points. As much as America hates the Red Sox already, Bonds would add an extra element of hatred for fans across the country. Boston fans, on the other hand, would face yet another moment of pure hypocrisy, reasoning why the man they derided so viciously in the past was an OK dude. Aside from all that, Curt Schilling -- the man who last summer famously boasted that Bonds cheated on his taxes, family, and the game -- and Bonds on the same team? The Jim Rice-Joe Morgan and Mo Vaughn-Mike Greenwell snafus of years past could potentially look like thumb wars if these two got together.

But if Ortiz is not soon to return, where else can you get a bat like Bonds without having to surrender Jed Lowrie, Moss, Justin Masterson, or Daniel Bard?

In case you hadn't noticed, there aren't too many clubs banging down Bonds' door these days, teams not exactly wanting to get involved for obvious reasons. I mean, baseball has apparently already gone and somehow decided to strike him from the list of 600-homer players (along with Sammy Sosa). You think it will be easy for Epstein to justify to his Bud Selig-buddy owners why they should pick up the tab on Bonds and bring the game back into that whole tainted spotlight again?

For Bonds, the possible opportunity has to be tantalizing. Boston would give him just as much of a shot as anyone at the elusive World Series ring. For the first time in his career, he'd be playing in the American League, but as a full-time DH, a luxury that he couldn't enjoy in the senior circuit, limiting his at-bats the past few seasons. As for the clubhouse issue, who knows what effect Bonds would have on what is currently a tight-knit group. It could be a recipe for disaster. Then again, Randy Moss sort of worked OK, no?

Yes, he's a liar and a cheater, but some might say the same about the ol' coach down on Route One. And he's only going to have a statue someday in these parts. If Ortiz is feared gone for any extended period of time, strip this down to just baseball. Take away the personality and the controversy that has defined his otherwise Hall of Fame career. What you have left is a risk staring the Red Sox in the face, one for which they would be irresponsible to not discuss internally.

Bonds once called the city of Boston racist despite never having been here, but it was a statement he seemed to retreat from last summer when his Giants visited Fenway, saying how much he enjoyed the city. His son spent time at Valley View School in North Brookfield, a private boarding school. And as one teammate summed up the slugger's experience here last summer:

"He genuinely enjoyed himself here. He walked around the city a lot and people were really nice to him. They weren't yelling at him, or yelling stuff at him or anything like that. People were very respectful of him. I think for a lot of us, this was kind of a test because we heard Boston would be rough on him. In the ballpark, sure there were the asterisks that people were holding up, and the "Steroids!" chants and all the things he's seen and heard before. So that part wasn't any different. The part that was different is the reception he got on the streets. And even the reception he got when he hit the home run."

If there is to be an indefinite hole in Boston, how can you not at least consider Bonds to fill it?

That phone is eventually going to ring. What do you do?

131 comments so far...
  1. interesting how the soxaholic.com website came up with the same story.........

    Posted by ted June 3, 08 12:55 PM
  1. Sometimes you can be downright funny.

    Posted by Jeff June 3, 08 12:56 PM
  1. NO. NO. NO. NO. It is the equivilent of selling your sole to the devil. Win at at all costs, but not that far. Don't do it Theo. Please don't do it.

    Posted by Front office June 3, 08 01:00 PM
  1. This is a pretty transparent attempt to rile up the masses. Nice try, Wilbur.

    Posted by Adrian Heney June 3, 08 01:03 PM
  1. ME WANT BARRY!!!!

    and also...my babyback babyback babyback babyback RIBS!!!!

    Posted by Brendan June 3, 08 01:06 PM
  1. You're joking, right? Yes, I suppose you have to bring the point to light - but to even suggest with any hint of seriousness that this should occur, or even be 'considered', is ludicrous.

    The day Barry Bonds dons a Red Sox jersey and steps to the plate is the day the Tampa Bay Rays have their newest fan - and the Red Sox one fewer. I'm sure I wouldn't be alone, either.

    It's utterly preposterous. Just the thought of it makes me want to puke.

    Posted by Ed Sweeney June 3, 08 01:06 PM

    Posted by R A BADGER June 3, 08 01:17 PM
  1. I have to admit I had the same thought this morning - someone who can hit home runs, would be the perfect DH and is currently unemployed.....

    Posted by Debbie June 3, 08 01:18 PM
  1. 7 there is no room for GARBAGE in the Sox lineup

    Posted by pb June 3, 08 01:21 PM
  1. NO WAY JOSE!!!

    Posted by Jay S June 3, 08 01:28 PM
  1. Barry hates Boston because he thinks we're "a racist city" and said he'd never play here. Also, what the heck would we do with him in a month when Ortiz comes back? We could also sign clemens since Dice-K is on the DL. Why no article on that?

    Posted by Jon Beerhoff June 3, 08 01:28 PM
  1. Do not want.

    Let the young'uns play in the outfield and stick Manny at DH (as you suggested).

    Posted by Elliott June 3, 08 01:29 PM
  1. although its not QUITE the same situation as last year in NY, do we really want to go down the road of spending what will probably be $15M or more for a rental with a lot of miles on it?? not to mention the circus that will follow him. now that the charges against him have come out, whose to say the feds don't place restrictions on him, or revoke his bond altogether...
    from a baseball and numbers standpoint, yes, it makes sense. but there are so many "cons" to the situation(pun intended). i think we can survive with a fast OF of Crisp, Drew, and Ellsbury. we can probably extend Manny's career with a significant number of his ABs this year at DH. and maybe The Mayor can show flashes of his Cincy and Detroit days. NO BARRY!!!


    Posted by Chris L. June 3, 08 01:32 PM
  1. No, absolutely not. Please keep Barry Bonds as far away from baseball as possible, and even farther away from the Red Sox.

    If you sign Barry, you might as well take a shotgun and kill the season dead.

    Posted by JB June 3, 08 01:39 PM
  1. There are other lefty bats to pursue.

    Why not start with Cincinnati? Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey, Jr.

    Posted by Bill June 3, 08 01:40 PM
  1. Has anyone spoken to manny about being the full time DH. My assumption is he is not going to be happy. And u know what happens when manny is not happy. He was trying for a gold glove this year. H eis not going to want to DH full time.

    Posted by Tommy Healey June 3, 08 01:46 PM
  1. Manny dh, the kids hit and run,and run,and run!

    Posted by walter Cavanaugh June 3, 08 01:49 PM
  1. Do you really want to poison the team chemistry?

    Barry did in SF. To think he wouldn't in Boston is . . . what's that river in Egypt?

    Posted by Tim Woods June 3, 08 01:53 PM
  1. I hate the thought but here's a couple names for you, Canseco and Henderson (Ricky). As far as Henderson goes, I hated him for several years as a damned Yankee, but when he came here it was fun to watch an old man steal bases and run faster then the rest of the younger players. And Canseco is and was an arrogant SOB with a mouth that never shuts up, we all hated him for years and yet it was intrigueing to think what he might be able to do at Fenway with the monster.
    So if Theo does the unimaginable, we'll all be pissed at first but then if Bonds hits a few dingers, maybe in the 9th, he'll be a new hometown hero.

    Posted by Rap June 3, 08 01:53 PM
  1. No one person is bigger than the Red Sox. Love him or hate him, if it makes the team better, than I am all for it. I believe we have enough veteran presence (i.e. Varitek, Lowell, etc.) in the locker room to prevent one egotistical maniac from changing the culture of the team. This is the only opportunity to gain such a tremendous bat without trading away a good part of our future. I loved Nomar and it was horrible to see him go, but no one person is bigger than the red sox, and it did make the team better....so just like this scenario if it's better for the team, than I am for it.

    Posted by matt June 3, 08 01:58 PM
  1. I don't like this being mentioned, but Wilber you are correct, its a conversation that has to happen....ugh. I can't even imagine the circus...come on Papi, heal quickly buddy...

    Posted by Denver Derek June 3, 08 02:06 PM
  1. I'm reading the comments and have to say that the readers are missing the point of the article, most of them at least. If the Sox even considered Bonds as a replacement (in the event Ortiz is out for the year), they would be doing it to fill a void in their lineup. Barry Bonds is not a fan favorite, and has not been for quite some time. You look at the economics of a deal involving barry, and its quite tempting.
    if you can deal with the media frenzy, which is already insane in Boston, as well as his attitude, which can be offset with varitek, Casey and lowell... then you can find a home for Bonds in Boston.
    Whats the alternative? You give the Ortiz vacancy to a rookie? Sure, Chris Carter, jeff Bailey or Brandon Moss might be capable of doing something special... but are they going to put up ortiz-like numbers? Are they going to be clutch in the hole and force a pitcher to either pitch to them or manny?
    let's get real here. There are trade options out there, but guys like Dunn or griffey are too expensive, salary wise. Matt holliday, even if Colorado agreed to trade, would cost masterson, moss and probably lowrie just to start talking. In addition, making a deal like that... you are basically saying "Manny, we loved having you here... but your options arent getting picked up, and you will be a free agent after this season". Frankly, I want manny around another 2 years. Guy is a machine, and i don't want to even think about filling that void just yet. He's entertaining too.

    So back to the point. Bonds is unemployed. One poster stated $15mill to sign him, and thats ludacrous. Bonds would get a low offer to play ball in Boston, maybe $5 million. The pitch from Epstein to Jeff Boris would sound something like this "Jeff, we know barry wants to play baseball and nobody's knocking. We know theres tremendous controversy surrounding your client, and that your phone hasnt been ringing lately. We have a hole at DH, and we would like to extend a $5 mill offer to your client to come play in Boston. He would be playing for one of the serious contenders for a title this season, his opp to finally get a ring and finish off his career. Take a look around baseball, tell me who else would be able to offer an opportunity like this. Sure the offer is low, but I urge you to put some calls in and find a better one. let me know after you two have talked it out"

    If Bonds signed in Boston... would it be the end of the world? Would die hard fans walk away? i dont think so. boston sports has had controversial players in the past... but this could be one who is the difference between back-to-back titles in the event ortiz is out for the year.

    you sign barry on a few stipulations
    1. you dont talk to media
    2. you DH
    3. you dont talk to media
    4. you TRY to be a team player

    Thats my take. hate me if you want... if Ortiz goes down, you dont mortgage the farm in a trade. you sign the slugger to a one year deal and guarantee another title.

    Posted by Mike M June 3, 08 02:07 PM
  1. Interesting that I can recall much the same verbose trumpeting from fans when news came that the Pats were looking at Moss. I saw just as many fans SWEAR they would no longer be Pats fans if Moss signed here. Also interesting was reading posts by those SAME FANS about how great it was to finally have a target like that for Brady, and that we were now a lock for a SB win.
    The comparison to signing Clemens is a joke....Barry can actually DO the things that made him famous (or infamous) - with or without drugs. The same cannot be said of Roger, even last year's Roger. Adam Dunn, Ken Griffey....did I miss when they became free agents? Not to mention that to compare them to Barry in terms of production is another joke.
    I don't like Barry. I didn't like Moss. But sports is now a production oriented business like any other. The Sox have plenty of veteran players to maintain dugout presence, just as it was with the Pats and their veterans keeping Moss in check (did you think he suddenly became an angel on his own?). Sanctimonious hyperbole and self-righteous banter is all well and good, but if the Sox sign Barry and win the WS, there won't be a SINGLE Bosox fan screaming to give back the trophy.

    Posted by Markes June 3, 08 02:11 PM
  1. you guys are all hypocrites. Sure - we'll take Rodney Harrision and his FAILED drugs back with open arms. And we will take Randy Moss and his crappy attitude and rebirth him as a star.

    But you won't take Bonds in? Come on. If Papi is out FOR THE YEAR (emphasis on year) then Bonds... He is quite simply the solution.


    He would cost cash only. No prospects and no commitment past the next few months.

    It would be on our terms - ala Moss - Do it our way or stay out of baseball.

    If nothing else, it would be fun to watch Schilling talk about how he is such a good team mate after calling him out last year.

    Again - if Papi is out FOR THE YEAR - simply put, he is the answer.

    Posted by Plus1handicap June 3, 08 02:11 PM
  1. No thank you. I'd rather lose than have Barry Bonds on the Red Sox. Besides, what about Sean Casey? I'm sure he could make a decent temporary DH. Stop the panic and remember your integrity.

    Posted by Cindy June 3, 08 02:13 PM
  1. Well at least if he trips and falls in the out field he won't cry like a girl and sit on the bench for an average of 3-4 games a week like his counter part from the National League Mr. Drew.

    Posted by John Garfield June 3, 08 02:14 PM
  1. Your stories suck...I'm sorry, what I meant to say is you and your stories really suck.

    1. Barry says he would never play for the Red Sox because the Red Sox organization and the city of Boston is prejiduce.
    2. You are an idiot who will say anything just so people pay attention to you.
    3. Boy, I really hate your stories.
    4. Even if he hit home runs in every at bat, I would not want a A**H** like him playing for us.

    Posted by Joe June 3, 08 02:20 PM
  1. no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!no way

    Posted by wilson June 3, 08 02:21 PM
  1. This is ridiculous!! Why would we want the most dangerous hitter in baseball when we can have Jed Lowrie?! Bonds is a cancer!! A home run hitting, on base machine cancer!

    Posted by Sully June 3, 08 02:23 PM
  1. I think Boston should get Bonds, if Ortiz is out for the year! I'm a die hard Boston fan, and listen up Boston, Tampa is for real! they are not a joke, they have pitching and they have a defense that is really good? remember pitching wins and it also starts with defense! We need something,because we are hanging around in second by the skin of our teeth! we cant win out West? we cannot win on the road? what happens when the Evil Empire starts to make a run? think about it? they always do, so eveyone suck it up! dont talk bad about Barry, everyone was jucing back in the day, look at Giambi, Sheffield? need I say more, why are you giving all of them free passes? let it go! I want Boston to repeat! dont you? I have waited all of my life to have them be this good! and my two young kids are seeing this and not going thru what I had to go thru when I was younger, A BROKEN RED SOXS FAN!

    Posted by JAMES BRAMHALL June 3, 08 02:25 PM
  1. He'll ever get the opportunity to trip and fall in the OF, unless he rounds first REALLY wide, John - lol! DH - PERIOD!!

    Posted by Markes June 3, 08 02:29 PM
  1. Comments 22-24 are pretty much spot on. While I can see both sides on this, I'm actually pretty surprised at some of the instant negative reactions that people had to this article. I'm really glad this got written today and I really hope the front office is considering this, or at least having this debate, too.

    If Ortiz is out, put Bonds in Boston and I'm sure essentially every smack-talking / Barry-hating fan will be silent in about a month. In the past I've pretty much always despised the guy myself, but it shouldn't take a genius to see what he will do for a lineup.

    Posted by Jeff June 3, 08 02:31 PM
  1. Barry Bonds Should Never Be A Member of the Boston Red Sox


    Posted by Matt June 3, 08 02:33 PM
  1. Definitely. barry Bonds is the greatest player of this generation. He would help Boston win a third World Series. The man is out of baseball and would be very appreciative of the opportunity. I do not think he would cause any problems.

    I think the RedSox would be foolish not to sign barry. The owners should step up and break down the wall of hatred that all the stupid people have for Barry. Most media people are jerks too but I still read their column....

    Posted by Jim June 3, 08 02:33 PM

    Boston fans will love his bat

    Posted by W. Vigue June 3, 08 02:36 PM
  1. Eric, to me this is such a no-brainer that I can't believe I didn't think of this before I read your post. If Bonds calls looking for work, I say you take the call, and if you can work out a reasonable deal (including not giving Bonds the special privileges he's used to), you sign him now. Based on the history of Schilling with a similar injury, it doesn't look like Papi is coming back any time soon. If Bonds is anything like he was last year (with no protection behind him) he'll be a tough out with Manny hitting behind him. And, you're not going to care about his defense (or lack thereof). He might be amenable to a Sox-friendly deal as this would be his last chance for a championship. I'd prefer Bonds over a trade for the likes of Griffey Jr. for the obvious reason that the only thing you have to give up for Bonds is money, you don't have to trade any players to get him. As for his baggage, sure he has plenty -- but that's not likely to be an issue until after the season is over, at which time it's not your problem --plus don't the Sox have enough "character guys" like Lowell that they could handle him, like the Patriots could handle Corey Dillon and Randy Moss?

    Posted by Mike B June 3, 08 02:47 PM
  1. Pay him $2m. With Barry Bonds in the Sox line up you might as well start measuring fingers for a third ring in five years. I'll sell my soul for that.

    Posted by Andrew June 3, 08 02:49 PM
  1. "The Red Sox are essentially faced with replacing a player with an .839 OPS, not an easy task." How about replacing Papi's .839 OPS with Chris Carter's .841 OPS?

    Posted by Drew June 3, 08 02:57 PM
  1. when was the last time Barry faced MLB pitching? wouldn't it take him a few weeks just to get ready? and i know Papi could be down a year, but he could also be down for just 4 weeks. let's not panic people. with 2 WS rings in the last 4 years we can afford to be patient.

    Posted by druboats June 3, 08 02:59 PM
  1. This is premature. A lot of names will have to be discussed and Bonds can't reasonably be near the top of the list. If we have to give up prospects so be it... Let's go after a proven, but not a "twilight" years player such as Jason Bay (always looking to shed payroll), Michael Young (no pitching), Adam Dunn (when isn't he on the block) or a good young player such as Tulowitzki (fills a REAL need and Colarado is desperate for young starters). The guy can hit but I couldn't stand by the move.

    Posted by Tony June 3, 08 03:00 PM
  1. Why can't we just plug Wily Mo in?

    Posted by Mostly Running. June 3, 08 03:01 PM
  1. eh. cute idea. Why don't we stick The Mayor in the 3 hole for a couple days and see if anyone notices.

    Posted by -=MUNGHERO=- June 3, 08 03:02 PM
  1. As a Sox fan living in the shadow of ATT Park...


    Bonds can hit (or could...how long has it been?), but he is a prima-donna, whiner, and big baby. I could not cheer for him in a Sox uniform. Never.

    Posted by N-CA-Sox-Fan June 3, 08 03:09 PM
  1. And if Mr. Bonds should end up in Boston, we're all going to treat him with dignity and respect, in words and in deeds . . . right? Give Peace A Chance.

    Posted by Daniel Natick June 3, 08 03:19 PM
  1. what do you do? YOU HANG UP ON THE CHEATING LOSER!

    Posted by Dr. John June 3, 08 03:23 PM
  1. Say it aint so Joe ...

    I would rather finish second than have Big Headed Barry on the team.

    There isn't a dominant team in the AL and even without Papi we are among the best. Remember, we just need to get to the playoffs. Pitching will carry us then. If we don't have the pitching there wont be a championship ... you remember all those years before 2004 ... we could score, but that was it.

    Posted by Larry G June 3, 08 03:33 PM
  1. If we make a run at Barry, then I'm convinced, Papi's wrist is seriously damaged

    Posted by nick June 3, 08 03:33 PM
  1. I have a feeling he would play nice if he did sign in Boston and would probably help the team, but I also think this team thinks about marketing just as much as it does anything else and they know that while the Sox are already the most hated team around the country right now, they're also the most loved and it's that part that would be in jeopardy if they signed Barry.

    Posted by J-Bone June 3, 08 03:36 PM



    Posted by I Love ThatCrazyDominican June 3, 08 03:41 PM
  1. Not good for the BoSox and Definitely not good for the Clubhouse.. Keep him away...far away!

    Posted by eagjr@mindspring.com June 3, 08 03:45 PM
  1. Could Bonds help this team? Probably. But here's the problem - baseball is a business. The ONLY function of the front office and the ownership is to put behinds in the seats and continue to build the fanbase. Yeah, winning is a huge part of what accomplishes that. But another huge part of that is NOT ALIENATING THE FANBASE.

    I want to win as much as the next Red Sox fan, but not at the cost of pimping the team out to garbage like Barry Bonds. I'd rather lose the division to the Rays, or even the Yankees. Get some of the pink hats off the bandwagon and build the team back up again next year if that's what it takes - but NO BONDS.

    This whole thing is kind of stupid anyway. The FO knows that the fanbase would never go for it. That would be the quickest route to generating a mass exodus onto the Rays' bandwagon. Screw Bonds, he's nowhere NEAR worth it.

    Posted by J.P. June 3, 08 03:46 PM
  1. 5 months of Bonds = 1st place. 5 months of AAA replacements = 3rd place

    Posted by No One Liked Moss Either June 3, 08 03:53 PM
  1. I would rather lose, period.

    Posted by cabianni June 3, 08 03:53 PM
  1. Put Drew as the DH. He has been injury-prone and this may help to stay healthy.

    Posted by Tim Handrahan June 3, 08 03:55 PM
  1. I wouldnt be opposed to parting with Jed Lowrie, Moss, Justin Masterson, or Daniel Bard if it got us the right player, particularly Moss or Lowrie since they will never be starters at their positions for the Boston Red Sox. Lowrie is not a major league shortstop, and Dustin will be our 2nd basemen for the distant future. Moss is not more than a fourth outfielder, and players like him are a dime a dozen.

    One name that is said to become available soon is Matt Holliday on the Rockies. If they would take Lowrie, Moss, and pitcher out of Lester/Masterson/Bard, I would make that trade. Then Manny and Holliday can switch off between LF and DH, it would leave Ortiz all the time he needs to rehab, and could be Manny's replacement if his options aren't picked up. If Ortiz can be back before the end of the season, then Holliday, Manny, and Drew can rotate days off, and DH to give Ortiz some extra rest.

    Posted by Seth June 3, 08 04:02 PM
  1. At this point in his career Bonds is not going to ruffle too many feathers, he will play ball with the media and joke around with the guys in the clubhouse.

    Manny will not see too many good pitches without a true number 5 hitting behind him, but the current Sox are doing a good job of moving base runners. I am on board with letting the young guys play with Manny at DH, but Bonds would not be the cancer many people think he would be, and used to be. Barry is all growns up and he knows what is at stake. His legacy, end on a good note, and a ring.

    Posted by barryball June 3, 08 04:15 PM
  1. I'd sign him right now to a major league minimum contract. Have some performance bonuses in there for games played, AB's etc. $1M separation bonus.

    Spend 2 weeks in Pawtucket and then call him up. If Papi is healthy, cut him with a $1M "thanks for your time" check. If Papi is out for the season, then he's mine, all mine, until the end of the WS and then he gets his $1M "thanks for your time. Here's your ring and enjoy it while it lasts" check.

    Posted by Joe June 3, 08 04:19 PM
  1. Red sox are the best, even without Ortiz, but having Bonds on the team would be amazing if it happens in the right way. I can only imagine the chemistry? between him and Manny.
    He could atone for himself.

    Posted by wdm, ny June 3, 08 04:21 PM
  1. As one of the biggest Red Sox fans outside of New England, I can assure you that if the Sox ever signed this POS, I wouldn't watch a game until he was released.


    Posted by Mack Herron June 3, 08 04:26 PM
  1. Just by reading the responses its seems the vast majority of well reasoned and articulate responses come from the people saying the Sox should at least consider the idea. Most of the those screaming NO seem to have bad information - the cost of getting Bonds (wouldn't be high), that he supposedly wouldn't play here (very out of date news), that we could somehow pry all of these young stars from other teams (would cost the sox their own young stars), and most of all, the notion that its OUR team and that the more emotionally among us who would rather lose than sign a certain player should somehow expect that their hysterical pleas be heeded by Theo and the gang. Bottom line: if Ortiz is out Bonds is by far the best option for all involved.

    Posted by Joe B June 3, 08 04:28 PM
  1. Please.

    Statistics aside, there are some doors that you just don't want to open. As a true baseball fan, I'd rather lose without him than win with him. Would Bonds be beholden to Boston for the opportunity? Or would he think Boston should bow down to him upon his arrival? It really doesn't matter either way.

    If Theo picked up Bonds I'd have to turn into a Tampa fan for the rest of the year.

    Posted by Mongo June 3, 08 04:34 PM
  1. This kind of Bonds story was inevitable, be it in Boston, NYC or wherever. When you look at the state of virtually every professional sport nowadays there are shady characters with tons of legal issues...crooked ref(s) and convicted felons in the NBA, NFL cheaters and liars just down the road in Foxboro or Michael Vick, gamblers in the NHL. Guys like Bonds, Sosa, Canseco, Sosa and McQuire in MLB. C'mon people, it's hear every day in sports. Professional sports are NOT driven by fans or the integrity of ownership. They are driven by only one and one thing only MONEY..CASH...MOOLAH. No one is ever going to pass on the chance at a World Championship in any of these sports (including the Red Sox) based on the good sense or morality of signing (or not signing) a player who will add millions to their bottom line. No one.

    Posted by Steve K June 3, 08 04:41 PM
  1. Chris Carter has a 841 OPS? really, over what period of time is that then? This is a story that will divide the nation, but nothing has happened yet, lets not worry and wait and see what turns up.

    Wily Mo please, where have you been?

    Posted by Muller14 June 3, 08 04:42 PM
  1. What about the idea of trading for Griffey Jr. or Adam Dunn if papi is out for the year. They are both trade bait with Bruce moving into the lineup and their expiring contracts.

    Posted by Jeff June 3, 08 04:56 PM
  1. Sign him up. Last time I checked this was entertainment. What would be more entertaining than Barry Bonds in Boston. I'd love it, and I hate him. If you think the Sox have no other lying cheaters on their team you need to stop drinking the kool aid. Write it down - Sox fans would love him in a month - see Randy Moss.

    Posted by Jason June 3, 08 04:59 PM
  1. Listen up folks. Put your feelings aside and think of what Bonds would do for this lineup. He would instantly replace the fear that Ortiz has for opposing pictures. He would get pitches to hit since Manny would be waiting on deck. He has unbelievable on base percentage, he can hit to the opposite field and tatoo the wall, if not, he'll hit it over!

    Since this would be Bond's last chance at a ring, he would come here with an open mind and would play under the Red Sox conditions. I don't think you would get any problems from him. He would be cooperative and 'make' friends here, no enemies. He knows this would be his last calling for a chance at a ring.

    This is really worth considering. Think about it folks, really think about it.

    Posted by Louie June 3, 08 05:23 PM

    Posted by SCOTT D June 3, 08 05:28 PM
  1. ECU sheath, isn't that what effectively ended Nomar's productive career? I don't have much respect for Bonds as a person, but he is the best pure ballplayer in 50 years. Even before he went Hulk on everyone, he was one of the best in the game. Unless we get a big, scary bat to hit behind Manny, the Dominican Dominator will see 150 walks this year. Bonds could be hitting MLB pitching (remember Mussina throws 85 now) in about a week. We're not talking about Pete Incaviglia here, we're talking about a man who could hit 800 HRs, draw 2000 walks, bat .350 in any given season, and make every AL pitcher tremble two batters before he comes up. is he a cheater? Yes, just like 300+ other players during his time, on both sides of the ball. Is he a likable, nice guy? No, but neither was Ted or Big Jim Rice and we worship them now. Give him a base contract with stipulations and incentives and bring him into the fold. Sit him between 'Tek and Wake in the clubhouse - in the same folding chair as everyone else - and keep cameras and microphones away from him. If Papi's out, Bonds - if healthy - is the only comparable offensive player available. Enough with the guys from Cincy, already. Dunn bats .240 albeit with insane power, and Junior is hurt more than Nomar and the Big Skirt. Bring in Barryball with written behavior guidelines and let him hit.

    Posted by jason June 3, 08 05:33 PM
  1. I think if they they it would be a good idea for the Red Sox to take Bonds but they have to say that they will not allow this kind of action on their team.

    Posted by Joshua Michael Short June 3, 08 05:36 PM
  1. You know who really really really really really REALLY REALLY REALLY wants Bonds in that lineup?? Our beloved Manny Ramirez and I am guessing every red sox pitcher as well. For all you saying you will root for the Devil Rays over this one player being on team, well good riddance you aren't Red Sox fans anyways.

    Posted by Joe B June 3, 08 05:55 PM
  1. Barry in Boston? WOW!! If he could play with any team without hassles it would be Boston. AND Barry wants a ring bad!!

    Posted by robert June 3, 08 06:19 PM
  1. NEED bonds NEED bonds
    DO IT

    Posted by ryan June 3, 08 06:28 PM
  1. this would be a good fit......i say bring him

    Posted by colin June 3, 08 06:36 PM
  1. Red Sox fans need to lighten up! Professional sports is ENTERTAINMENT. It would be incredibly entertaining to have Bonds on the Sox and Manny and Papi love the guy!

    Posted by John June 3, 08 06:45 PM
  1. considering what Barry has done in the past on a really crappy team, can you imagine what he'd do in the Sox lineup?

    Posted by SF Ed June 3, 08 06:56 PM
  1. As ridiculous as it sounds, I agree. I think if any clubhouse can make him feel welcome it would be this one. I think that's the biggest issue, too. Sure, the media attention is going to happen, but you know what, if a team needs it, and a team can work out a deal that makes everyone (EVERYONE) happy then why not? We rolled the dice last year with Gagne and it didn't work, but Barry could (and should) be a totally different story. It's not like the pressure would be solely on him to win a championship, this team is already expected to win. Barry would just enhance that, I guess. Anyways, I agree, albeit with a grumble..

    Posted by Moo June 3, 08 08:09 PM
  1. I agree completely with post 70. If one player would make you root for another team good riddance. In the end it's not about the name on the back of the jersey...but rather it's about the name on the front. I don't know about you but I'd rather have the thrill of winning then the knowledge my team's integrity is intact. Baseball is a business and winning is why players play and why we watch.

    If Ortiz is out for the year sign Bonds.

    Posted by Craig June 3, 08 08:40 PM
  1. Sorry, but I've always been a Barry fan, from his days in the Pit, and I'd love to see the Homer King in a Sox uni. The guy could hit last year having to play the field, he could put up high-end numbers in Boston. So if Theo gets the call, he should answer and offer.

    All of this is of course in the event that Pop's needs sergery, cause if he don't Manny will have to suck it up and play DH till he's back.

    Posted by Heff June 3, 08 10:17 PM
  1. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

    We did not have to cheat when we won 7 world championships, especially the last two, and we do not need this cheating fraud, nor the other one who disgraced the number 21 but after he left our team.


    Posted by Barth June 3, 08 10:31 PM
  1. This is just Wilbur being Wilbur: he has to earn a living like every other sensationalist tabloid writer.

    Posted by LaughingAtEric June 3, 08 10:31 PM
  1. The Roids Theo The Roids!
    DONT DO IT!!

    Posted by Roid Rage June 3, 08 10:36 PM

    Posted by S D June 3, 08 10:45 PM
  1. Barry Bonds in a Red Sox uniform? Doesn't quite sound right. Can't picture it either...however...we all have to keep in mind that the man with all the baggage he may have, cheater, tax evader, doper, whatever, he is a menacing, imposing, intimidating presence at the plate. Without a power threat to bat in front or behind Manny, opposing teams will pitch around Manny and take their chances with Youk, or Lowell, or Drew. Bonds cannot play the field, but neither can or does Ortiz. How quickly the mindset of many anti-bonds fans would change the first home run he hit in Fenway. All is forgiven? and bottom line, it would be a low-risk situation. There would be no talent to be given up. (ala Bartolo Colon). And it would piss off Yankee fans even more than ever. Just a thought.

    Posted by Mike (Amesbury, MA) June 3, 08 11:07 PM
  1. I have been a sox fan since I was ten years old(57 years). Barry Bonds would instantly have me looking for another team to root for.

    Posted by Steve Halsey June 3, 08 11:50 PM
  1. Watching Barry play here over the past 15 years, all of the clubhouse stuff is overblown....and he's a gamer. Sox fans will cheer after he hits two dingers the first week and sets the table for Manny and Lowell. At $5m it's a no brainer.

    Posted by mikefenwayinsf June 4, 08 01:11 AM
  1. Bonds is the best hitter ever, steroids or not...if ortiz goes down for the rest of the season it would be stupid not to sign him...like it said in the article ( would you rather give up your top prospects in a trade for a bat in the lineup for ONE year, or sign the guy who has hit more homeruns then ANYONE!!!!!!!!!! think about that lineup...scary

    Posted by AZFAN June 4, 08 01:27 AM
  1. At the risk of having sold my "sole" (lame, learn to spell) to the devil, I say get Barry and get him fast. The heck with you fair-weather "fans" who don't want him. Barry Bonds even now is still one of the best hitters in baseball. Barry would demolish the AL as a DH. Short-term he would be an excellent solution, especially since it takes the pressure off Papi to come back too soon from his injury. BTW, I still believe in innocent until PROVEN guilty, and I also think the DA prosecuting Barry's case has nothing but the overwhelming desire to be in the headlines. GO GET BARRY!

    Posted by Dan June 4, 08 02:21 AM
  1. Totally do it if ortiz is gone or the year. Could be Clemens in Houston at best, and it's not my money at worst. Then again i wanted Harrison and Dillon and Moss, and want Gilbert Arenas. Beat NY by being wiser, but richer than, NY.

    Posted by Sean June 4, 08 03:57 AM
  1. Just do it.

    Posted by Mike June 4, 08 07:46 AM
  1. Nah. He's Yankee material and would look nice in pinstripes sitting next to Giambi. Cheating bookends. The loss of Ortiz is irrelevant. Sox by 9 1/2 instead of 10.

    Posted by george yeomans June 4, 08 07:48 AM
  1. The posters calling out everyone for saying they wouldn't want to root for the Red Sox if they picked up Bonds JUST DON'T GET IT. For a lot of us, the enjoyment of watching the Red Sox isn't just about winning the World Series. It's about playing the game the right way. Bonds is a ridiculously talented individual - but he's also a cancer, a cheater, a racist, and a horrendous human being. He just would NOT be worth rooting for. Win or lose, the Red Sox would lose on this one in my book.

    I agree with all the other posters who say they'd rather lose. I would too. We lost for 86 years with dignity intact. Let's not become a bunch of prostitutes and win at all costs people. I would be EXTREMELY disappointed if the Red Sox made that move - even conceding that Bonds would shove us into frontrunner status for another WS title. Do it WITHOUT him. Don't be the team that everyone else gets to laugh at and have to explain to your kids why cheating pays. I just can't stomach that. Win or lose with honor and dignity. Otherwise, what is winning worth anyway? JMO.

    Posted by J.P. June 4, 08 08:35 AM
  1. The big debate? There is no debate...eric, you are an moron. Way to mail it in.

    Posted by Bo Edlund June 4, 08 09:08 AM
  1. How about the word CHEMISTRY?? I think that is the most over looked attribute in team sports. Teams with good to great chemistry can beat teams that have better talent. They do it for each other not them selves. Bonds would destroy the CHEMISTRY of this team. Give the Brandon Moss and Chris Carters a chance and let Jason, Big Papi and Terry conitne to control the CHEMISTRY.

    Theo don't do it!

    Posted by Kevin June 4, 08 10:34 AM
  1. I'm amazed at the number of bandwaggoners on here 'threatening' to jump over to Tampa Bay's cause... just unreal.

    If signing Bonds creates that opportunity for you, THEN WHY THE HECK ARE YOU WAITING?? For Pete's sake - GO NOW - please. Hurry up, your bus is leaving.

    Leave knowing that you will not be missed, either. If fact - maybe some of us could then buy your pink-hatter tickets. Losers - all of you. Go buy your new blue Rays hat. Quickly. Tonight.

    Posted by JustWinBaby June 4, 08 10:59 AM
  1. "Boston fans, on the other hand, would face yet another moment of pure hypocrisy, "

    This is such a great quote, considering how they've embraced the Sox doing everything they hated about the Yankees.

    Posted by E June 4, 08 11:05 AM
  1. Simply put: Barry Bonds is a monster and signing him would destroy the team.

    Posted by George June 4, 08 11:24 AM
  1. They have to purse this avene IF BIG PAPA is out for the year. He is a tough player to bring on with our beloved Sox but I think it would be very cheap to bring him on. And he will hit a lot of HRs and have a lot RBIs.

    Posted by Matthew Baird June 4, 08 12:05 PM

    Posted by Brick June 4, 08 12:07 PM
  1. I would sell my tickets and become another team's fan

    Posted by John June 4, 08 12:17 PM
  1. Are You kdding me?! The Hell With Steriod Boy.

    Posted by Kevin June 4, 08 12:59 PM
  1. "'Boston fans, on the other hand, would face yet another moment of pure hypocrisy, '

    This is such a great quote, considering how they've embraced the Sox doing everything they hated about the Yankees."

    What, like figuring out that pitching, and NOT hitting, is the key to championships? Good call Captain Obvious.

    Posted by J.P. June 4, 08 01:12 PM
  1. I dont care who they sign!!!! I WANT ANOTHER WORLD SERIES RING!!!
    I want another ring!!!

    Posted by andrew June 4, 08 01:20 PM
  1. Post #83 - that's a GREAT last line there, Mike!

    ......I can see it now - A new 'Priceless' theme for a MasterCard ad ......

    2 beers @ The Stadium = $25
    2 jacked up tickets in the Bronx ('cuz you're wearing your Boston road jersey) = $500
    The look on a NYY fan's face when Bonds hits one in the upper deck after Rivera walks Ramirez - PRICELESS!!!


    P.S. - Any of you lightweights that will then want to then dump your Sox tickets - please, please DO SO. You toads. The line for them will start right behind me.

    Posted by BarrywillhitbehindManny June 4, 08 01:33 PM
  1. MR.John Henry,
    As principle owner you and your talented staff have brought the RED SOX as the most watched team across the country and the world.Real Bosox fans have supported the group of players and their respect of the game and the FANS. With that said dont with the mess with the sucess this group of MEN that want to WIN for YOU ,US and themselves. Barry Bonds and all the distractions he will bring back into the Game will only hurt this team but all TRUE BOSOX FANS.PLEASE give the team and the younger players that WE have the chance to prove that they have your support Now and in the future.You and your staff have have given us FANS so much to be PROUD of since you came.Give Terry and men the you have chosen the encouragement and trust that you have in them.Remember all the baseball world is watching.LET"S ALL BELIEVE.

    Posted by Bill June 4, 08 01:43 PM
  1. Please don't sign Barry. I want to see the Angels tear you apart in the playoffs.

    Posted by J.J. June 4, 08 01:52 PM
  1. I'm confused. Is this based on any factual information, or is this yet another example of media sensationalism for the sake of getting press? Seems like there are a lot of maybes and who knows in this article. Is this true or is Wilbur just saying, "Well hey, Ortiz is hurt over there, Bonds is over there...wait a minute! Bonds could fill that spot!"

    Well, you got me to comment anyway. So you're doing something "right."

    Posted by Brendan June 4, 08 02:33 PM
  1. 'Real' Bosox fans like me have watched mgmt. in years past sign Carl Everett, Jose Canseco, Dante Bichette, Mike Lansing, Jose Offerman....the list goes on and on and on.... most we signed to long term deals, and got minimal results.

    How is this any different? Other than the fact that Barry's a better hitter than any/all of the above?

    We're not the Royals. Or the Pirates. We have the coin, this is the chance to add a great bat without HAVING to unload ANY of our young guys waiting in the wings. And for any of you that think 'chemistry' is all it takes... well, chemistry won't get Manny anything worthwhile to hit this season. Chemistry doesn't drive in runs.

    Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore. Write the check Mr. Henry. Do a one year incentive laden deal. Get us the great hitter (in this situation) that just doesn't come down the pike but once in a blue moon.

    Posted by BondsboundforBoston June 4, 08 02:36 PM
  1. just think of the line up you could have! ellsbury, pedroia, BONDS, ramirez, drew, youk, lowell, varitek, and lugo!! although i would rather they went out and got griffey jr. cuz he can still play some field but if you can get someone like bonds for just money no players im all for it. think of it this way, would you rather have SEAN CASEY than BARRY BONDS?!?!! come on true sox fans want to win and i believe bonds is our best shot without papi. even if he is back around the allstar game is he gonna be able to add the same punch he has been able to? best bet is to shut him down for the year and go with the next best bet. also clemens is a tool you want someone who will destroy our club house there he is not bonds! theo get him and get him quick before the yanks find there groove like they do every year.

    Posted by Garrett June 4, 08 02:41 PM
  1. 2008 World Series Red Sox vs Mets.....Pedro drills Bonds in the ass. What's better than that?

    Posted by mark paolucci June 4, 08 03:33 PM
  1. Ive been reading all of these posts and I can see many valid points on why to sign Bonds, and why NOT to sign Bonds...Im sure everyone can agree that something needs to be done to replace Ortiz's bat in the lineup. I dont think anyone in "our" system can fill that void. Second, I think trying to make a trade will prove too costly, with other teams knowing the potential dire situation Boston is in with Ortiz's injury. We need to protect Manny...We need a power bat for an effective 3-4 punch...we need to make a move. One said Sammy Sosa? He allegedly was on steroids too...notice how small he's gotten in the last few years. Boston has a great team chemistry, an environment where the fans will embrace a player, and rarely boo when that player struggles (ala JD Drew). I guess the main question is: Would signing Bonds-aside of the headaches, better this team? Would Signing Bonds fill the void left by Ortiz, would signing Bonds protect Manny in the line-up so that opposing pitchers just dont "pitch" around him... I say yes to all of those. I dont like Barry Bonds, I dont approve of his actions, but I cannot deny his talent. I cannot deny that he is an imposing, devasting power hitter who can still HIT. Those of you threatening to root for another team if Bonds is signed I guess are not true Red Sox fans at all. Win at all costs? What cost exactly is that? Bonds is a LOW-RISK, HIGH REWARD type of situation. Hes begging to Play, He would probably play for the minimum salary. He would keep his mouth shut and just play. He wants a Ring. Look at Bartolo Colon!!! some thought he was all done, not the same guy anymore...from what Ive seen he is showing to be his "old" self, and at what cost? Pocket Change and we didnt have to give up anyone to get him. Bonds would be at a "pocket change" cost and we dont have to give up our future talent to land him. Think hard fans...It would not be considered "selling" out if we took a flier on Bonds. He would be a temporary solution to a problem that is right now facing us head on. Bonds in Boston. Who would you rather pitch to? Barry or Manny? How about door # 3? All this conversation about Getting Bonds may be to no avail, we all hope Ortiz's injury is not as serious at it may appear to be...We all hope to have David Ortiz back sooner than later...but...if his injury is a season-ending one, why not "RENT" Barry Bonds? Bad for Baseball? Bad for Boston? Id rather see him in a Red Sox uniform than a Yankees Uniform. Id rather be in awe of one of his monstorous Home Runs in a Red Sox Uniform than from an opposing team. Fenway is a sellout everygame regardless...I find it Very doubtful that if Bonds played for Boston, that he would be booed by Red Sox Nation. In Fact, I would bet anyone...after the first Home Run..he would be "forgiven" even if temporarily in the minds of Red Sox Nation. Go Sox.

    Posted by Mike Kula June 4, 08 03:39 PM
  1. "'Boston fans, on the other hand, would face yet another moment of pure hypocrisy, '

    ""What, like figuring out that pitching, and NOT hitting, is the key to championships? Good call Captain Obvious.""

    Red Sox fans constantly complained about the yankees spending, saying they just buy championships. Once they had owners who were willing to spend money, they did a complete 180.

    Posted by Outsider June 4, 08 04:25 PM
  1. PEOPLE!!!! We are not just looking for anyone to step in and play DH. The point here is we need someone capable of putting up BIG PAPI numbers to protect Manny in this awesome lineup. If Ortiz is out for the season, yes, of course, absolutely, go after Bonds for league minimun loaded with incentives. He needs a job and we need his bat if Ortiz is out for season. For you wagon jumpers, hurry and jump now, cause with Bonds the Sox will need your spot for future wagon riders.

    Posted by Ben Rodriguez June 4, 08 04:30 PM
  1. Re: Post # 110; Are you writing a book lol j/k. I agree with many of your points. The key in this whole blog debate about Bonds is how serious is David Ortiz's injury. Some say two weeks, some say a month, some fear longer. For now it appears to be a waiting game. In the case that Ortiz may be out longer than anticipated, I feel Theo Epstein needs to make a move and bring in a veteran bat to bat in front of or behind Manny. Mike Lowell is doing an excellent job in the # 5 hole. He should stay there. The argument would then be whom? Matt Holliday? too expensive and too costly of talent from Boston. Sammy Sosa? too inconsistent. Dare I say Barry Bonds. Is it too taboo to think of Barry Bonds in a Red Sox Uniform? Would you rather see him in Pinstripes? Need we be reminded he hasnt lost his hitting stroke, and last I checked he was the Home Run King, asterik or no asterik. Barry Bonds wants desperately to play this year. He has lost a step, and playing in the A.L. and DH'ing would best suit him. He also wants to win a Ring. Too controversial, too much baggage, would he disrupt the clubhouse? Boston somehow seems to tame the "arrogance", or me, me me attitudes in Players. Boston is about T-E-A-M...Together Everyone Achieves More. Barry Bonds once said that Boston was a "racist" town, yet when he came to Boston last season for a series with San Fran, he was treated with respect on the streets. Some of you say, if the Red Sox signed him that you would no longer be Red Sox fans...well ladies and gentlemen..the beauty of America is freedom of Choice. Would Bonds in Boston be a media circus...Yes...but...so is Manny being Manny. Ask yourself this...would you boo Bonds in Boston? how about after he hit one of his mammoth home runs in a clutch situation? (ala David Ortiz)? Nobody is asking you to like Barry Bonds. But personal opinions aside, talent for talent, he is the best available player out there. Sign the guy for the MLB minimum salary, put him in the # 3 hole in front of Manny and watch. We can what if ourselves to death about what to do and what not to do with the Ortiz situation...I just don't want to ever have to say...What if Barry Bonds had played for the Red Sox...if only the Red Sox grabbed him before the dreaded Yankees. Ughhhh...Nightmare City. Noone wants Barry Bonds...but we sure as hell need him right now if this injury to Ortiz gets ugly. Needs and Wants are two seperate things...We need a power-hitter...We need to protect Manny Ramirez....We want to win another World Series this year...We "need" to make a move to give that "Want" a chance to happen. The End.

    Posted by Nate-Mass June 4, 08 05:36 PM
  1. Everyone keeps saying the teams need to "protect" manny. Doesn't Oritz bat 3rd? didn't everyone say last year and the year before that the reason Ortiz did so well was that Manny was "protecting" him??

    Posted by JK June 4, 08 06:15 PM
  1. Boston!!!!!!!! Here is our chance to prove the world wrong!!!!! BOSTON IS NOT A PREJUDICE CITY. Sign bonds, and squash the opponents. This will make the yankee fans go INSANE. PULL THE TRIGGER THEO!! WINNING CURES ALL!!!!!!!

    Posted by Mr x June 4, 08 08:49 PM
  1. JK - stay with the thought process for a moment... I know it's tough for some people

    Manny & Ortiz together means you have to pitch to at least one of them. Same thing if we sign Barry Bonds. It's a tandem thing.

    Manny goes on a tear, w/o Ortiz/Bonds - he'll be getting walked a minimum of twice a game.

    Posted by BondsboundforBoston June 4, 08 09:02 PM
  1. Why are we even discussing this? Barry Bonds in a Sox uniform?? Can't get my big head around the idea!

    Posted by Joe June 5, 08 12:19 AM
  1. This isn't an attempt to rile up the masses. This is, however, very likely Luchino or one of his lieutenants attempting to judge public opinion. Thankfully, the New England citizenry realize that Barry is a male diva who allows himself to be bigger than the team he plays on. That type of player runs perfectly counter to the type of organizational culture that the Red Sox have fostered.

    So NO to Barry! I'd rather route for a team that loses without him, than a team that wins with him.

    Posted by John Fleming June 5, 08 01:19 AM
  1. Since when does America hate the Red Sox. It's not called Red Sox Nation for nothing?

    Posted by m Marino June 5, 08 01:32 AM
  1. Not even remotely interested. The last thing they need is an a-whole on the team like him. Besides, he hasn't seen live pitching in what, 9 months? No thanks.

    Posted by Stay Retired June 5, 08 01:38 AM
  1. Everything that the Red Sox have become as a winning organizational culture of excellence, visionary management, and team play defies the logic of even CONSIDERING the possibility of The Steroid Man coming to Fenway.

    Shut your cell phone off, Theo! Instead, drive down to Pawtucket and see greatness on its way up.......................

    Posted by Peter Nanos June 5, 08 03:47 AM
  1. Barry's a family man, like the rest of the sox. He would fit in fine. It seems like a no brainer. I think David and Barry are very similar with there approch to the plate. Both being left handed is there advantage in Fenway and most American League Parks. Take the chance with Barry he could hit 25 - 30 Homeruns the rest of the season if Ortiz needs season ending surgery. Theo, pick up that phone, it would put us in fine shape for BIG FANDANGO.

    Posted by Kirk Schroff June 5, 08 09:25 AM
  1. What about Lowell? Just Not Barry Bonds

    Posted by Matthew June 5, 08 09:32 AM
  1. Intriguing, it would be worth to take a look at what Barry would want to continue to play. Obviously, he has a lot of baggage and that should reduce his asking price, especially if no one has come a knocking at his door. Personally, I think he is getting a raw deal. And if you donít think that there is collusion involved youíve got to be crazy. They have testing and if he is willing to cheat Iím sure heíll get caught. He still deserves to play and here might not be a bad place to get it started again, if, he has a desire to prove himself again and if the winds of chance blow in his favor.

    Posted by Michael Cormier June 5, 08 09:33 AM
  1. By the numbers, it makes perfect sense to sign Barry Bonds. By everything HOLY, it would be total blasphemy!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Jake June 5, 08 10:32 AM
  1. As a Sox diehard New England transplant who's lived in SF throughout Barry's career let me add this- Barry is the greatest, most clutch power hitter of my lifetime. Trust me- better than even Big Papi with the game on the line.

    I was amazed and privileged to watch him over theses years. Steroids gave him more home runs, but in many cases, they would have been 2nd row shots versus back of the bleachers and beyond. Sox would be fools to not sign him in two weeks if Papi needs surgery.

    Posted by Jack Murgia June 5, 08 11:08 AM
  1. Been a Sox fan since '67, lived near SF since '72.

    Won't happen, but if it does my happy scenario is tie game bottom of the 9th, bases loaded, 2 outs, Barry up, he takes one in the balls and the winning run scores as he writhes in the dirt.

    Harsh? Yup. That's what watching him for 15 years'll do.
    He isn't cancer - cancer isn't infectious.
    He'a smallpox and I don't want him anywhere near Boston.

    He's smallpox
    I don't want him anywhere near my team.

    Posted by El June 5, 08 12:23 PM
  1. ya'll are fools for not wanting barry. he is amazing. most dominate player ever.

    papi is good and all, but he's just never achieved the greatness that is Barry Bonds. The faster everyone can deal with that statistical fact the better. Barry dominated baseball in a horrible hitter's park for a long time, if he could play in lil Fenway that would be something to see.

    people attacking him for untruth's based on his personal life, or things that aren't full known such as his alleged steriod use, is just silly. if the sox want to win, and want to see the greatness player ever (statistically) in a red sox uniform they would do all the can to sign barry. using this nonsensical "moral highground" argument is silly. especially since we are all pats fans, and i have a hard time defending them these days on morality.

    i like winning, and i appreciate greatness

    Posted by want to win June 5, 08 12:40 PM
  1. To all the people who say if Bonds is signed they wouldn't watch another game?

    Good. Don't.

    You are probably the frat-bro boyfriend of the girl in the pink Jacoby Ellsbury T-Shirt and if you "Fans" would stop buying tickets to get drunk and cause a scene, the rest of us who support The Red Sox, with or without Barry Bonds, could get into a game without applying for a third mortgage.

    Posted by Nick June 5, 08 02:39 PM
  1. Are you kidding me? This cannot happen if we want the Red Sox's to continue to be a great team! Stick with Ramirez, and we will have the best of the best......

    Posted by Beau Smith June 5, 08 07:52 PM
  1. Bonds in a Red Sox uniform?

    Just say NO.

    Posted by Linda Yates June 6, 08 10:05 PM
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